Prospect Enhanced TBC - general

Prospect Enhanced TBC

Management / general

"The IC motorcycle gang I am a member of is looking for a new server to play on, the Odins Disciples MC. We are a big crew with about 15-20 active members at any time. Criminal RP is what I am personally used too however I do play with 2 characters, one crim and one cop. I will often stream my time on cop as well." (edited)

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@<4D:69:64>

01:22

Potential coming over

01:24

20 man MC imagine :0

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cool!

01:29

thats good no

Yessir

the gangs are 12 tho

You should look over the rule maybe

01:35

In terms of

01:35

Numbers allowed to chill with each other as friends

01:35

Not sure

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Give it a break pal

You like that gif?

I’m done with you rn

What why

Need to make sure the bikes for mcs are good then, variations are there etc

Yeah let’s buy a pack

10:09

Of proper bikes tbf

Currently looking for a new job but ill get on looking

@Vinales @VDR So for kobbie, are we thinking a community/eco role where he can push roleplay and help with ideas etc? And for ols, helping with clothing and tattoos - (not paid) unless he does same stuff as liv

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@Vinales @VDR So for kobbie, are we thinking a community/eco role where he can push roleplay and help with ideas etc? And for ols, helping with clothing and tattoos - (not paid) unless he does same stuff as liv

Yeah sounds really good, Kobbie would fit well in their as he’s very good w eco and always on the server

Yeah I think if we bring him in for a call

11:03

And tell him that if he steps up to actually get a role & be a point of contact for the community

11:03

He needs to lock in

11:03

Can’t be behaving like Lemone

I agree

SOOOO

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@VDR

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erm

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2 people want unbanning

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...

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just wanted to know your opinions

<4D:69:64>

just wanted to know your opinions

Who who?

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VDR

Who who?

here

No & no

15:33

I’d rather Qpid & J8 unbanned

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ahahah

15:37

wait what cars do they have

15:37

we can auction them @VDR

<4D:69:64>

we can auction them @VDR

Couple

15:37

Need buffing tho

15:37

Before auction to get hype up

yeah i mean what did they have we can raid their inventory ahah

Oh shit jsut seen this chat

11:33

Hi guys

Hellooo

Wahey

@VDR @Vinales We need to talk about kobbie and ols They have been waiting for a chat

Yeah 100% what’s the situation

11:45

Are we thinking Kobbie more community support

11:45

Playing a lot looking for stuff to change speaking to comm about what they need we need ??

11:45

And ols I ain’t got a Scooby

Kobbie - I’m happy for you two to jump on this & have another chat with the man. Kobbie into Community Support role, but needs to lock in. Vin being there as a friendly face helps. Ols - More so around his clothing dev ability. Ideally I’d like to be there for this call, but hesitant to schedule it for Saturday in case I’m out for the night as well as the day. We can get him in a call 100% on Sunday

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@<4D:69:64> who’s on eco for the ‘2.0’

Vinales

@<4D:69:64> who’s on eco for the ‘2.0’

Need a good few people re doing this eco properly now we have time and full control

I was gonna say

13:02

I’ll hop on if you need help

Yeah bro, tbh i need be who are going to actively take control of things, ill oversee it and push changes

@Vinales u free to talk to kobbie?

<4D:69:64>

@Vinales u free to talk to kobbie?

Yeah let me turn my pc on

yhyh

@<4D:69:64>

11:05

539 accounts total: 17 society + 522 personal, summing to $35,250,127

11:05

our eco fuckenhell#

11:05

ahahahha

take out society?

11:06

probs around 28m

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then take out staff

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like 25m

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staff like vdr dan me etc

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roughly

B1

@<4D:69:64>

how can i see these logs btw i think it will help me break it down easier

thasts just me looking at db

11:14

making new banking so just noticed on the trasnfer

eco is deffo inflated form the get go. hunting - mining- houses - bee keeping - other exploits we have no noticed like not paying for any upgrades at thge mechs, cheap cars, etc. how ever if we remove the sociiety accounts and the big earners from staff - then divide that number by how many players have made a character should get a different number

B1

539 accounts total: 17 society + 522 personal, summing to $35,250,127

If you’re looking at the actual bank DB it’s wrong

09:12

As it only updates when you go into the actual bank after you receive money through your phone

09:12

Best way to check requires a bit of admin, through the “players” one (edited)

whos doing cars now?

not a clue

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VDRs job (edited)

<4D:69:64>

whos doing cars now?

In terms of vehicle dev work

11:20

We need to get new devs in, as Nanny isn’t around enough

11:20

@B1 did we change the garage script back to client sided?

11:20

As that should revolve A LOT of issues surrounding vehicle performances

11:21

But moving forward on any new packs we’re bringing in, really need 1-2 new devs

VDR

@B1 did we change the garage script back to client sided?

No it’s not food

11:47

Good

11:47

Will cause more issues

11:48

Gonna try it on dev but yeah

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Most of the issues

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With it are coming from JG

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the garage just don’t play ball with JG

Server sided vehicle spawning causes issues (edited)

11:51

We’ve had it now with both garage scripts used

11:52

Cars having different performances each time you pull them out is nothing to do with JG

It is

11:53

JG handles how the mods and cosmetics are applied

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Which effects the way the vehicle is pulled out of the garage

11:54

Hopefully dans mechanics are done soon

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So I can acc completely refactor the garages

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To be smooth with that system

I would put up a tenner that we still have vehicle issues after a new mech script gets added

11:54

And the garages are still server sided

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@<4D:69:64> can also vouch that some cars are different speeds for different people

11:55

Which is not a JG issue

VDR

@<4D:69:64> can also vouch that some cars are different speeds for different people

Yeah the deffo are Garage script and jg script cause issues all round

@wettoney If you cba to play because there is nothing to do can you atleast voice it to us as you are in a management position

B1

@wettoney If you cba to play because there is nothing to do can you atleast voice it to us as you are in a management position

Its not like that mate, its just hard when i want decent rp etc but just doesnt seem to be much happening at all without trying to force shit to happen

@<4D:69:64> is working insanely hard

23:03

Giving so much rp

23:06

We’re here for the long game mate 50 pop tonight it’s getting better

Nah of course mate i get that im not blaming you at all

00:39

Not blaming anyone on the team etc

00:41

Just dont know what to do with my self when i fly in thats all an i create things here an there but nothing seems to spin off from it

update will change that

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we are going to produce something great

Icl, i have a lot to do.

need go get at least 2/3 trusted people to help fully with this eco reshuffle. (Not people that will say “here if you need anything”) - thats not helpful respectfully, i need someone to take charge of it and i can oversee.
- tiktok. Going to look at today
- gang/civ map(this is a big one ive started)
- pd improvements
- scouting
- talking to com and helping them with issues / lsm motors - cnc-gfc
- roleplay creation to keep people in, and happy.
- new testing cord setting up
Icl gus has been a great help, Theres

More on my list but meh. -

@Vinales Do you mind helping mid?

08:37

Or maybe speak to some of the more trusted staff

B1

@Vinales Do you mind helping mid?

Yeah I can assist, how many staff would you like @<4D:69:64>

08:39

For assisting w eco I would recommend Gus, LRH, AK and Luka

Sound, once me and @VDR have set up the new development discord. We can sort everyone with roles etc

Perfect

Full break down of last night. I wasn’t there for the beginning but. Lemone sacked/quit via discord Claimed he hadnt officially quit ic, says that max escalated, However if he didn’t quit he went corrupt If he did quit he abused wl Shootout happened it was mental alot of tickets and complaints. Gus flew in mid scene he admitted too Dan was shooting from a rooftop that wasn’t accessible to others unless in a helicopter. Apparently lemone and blue gang started a shootout with pd at the hospital (need to verify this) A few blue f8 quit including lemone Mkay stayed and done a bench trial and actually won ahah I banned lemone temp unfit while we deal with this, to avoid him going mental in the discord, to which he agreed after sending his dms now

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10:13

@VDR @Vinales @B1

10:14

Enjoy the read i guess

Jesus Christ

Lemone legit only came on to shoot, then after that max and mary started getting shit for what dan and gus did. Gus only did it cause lemone took loads of shit from od evidence etc to give to blue gang yo start a shootout heavy cop baiting (edited)

10:19

Got pd saying they arent playing for a while

10:19

Its a lose lose situation here ill be real

10:22

Keep lemone banned - ban some blues = more toxic shit Keep lemone banned - dont ban blue = less toxicity but piss pd off somewhat Unban lemone - piss staff off Make it a 14- 30 day ban for lemone - probs vest option in terms of him.

10:24

Taking guns etc from evidence lockers ruins rp icl this is why corruption has to be approved

#deleted-channel #deleted-channel #deleted-channel

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10:39

on top of this - creating rp to keep people busy. social media direction of crim planning eco stuff - massive re do of everything streaming to get clips and stuff for the server dealing with doj conversations (sorted with hitman and curtis) dealing with lsm motor guys getting staff set up with dan for testing new stuff on new testing discord. and a lot more. im doing quite a bit.

Christ

11:11

What a fucking shit show

<4D:69:64>

Lemone legit only came on to shoot, then after that max and mary started getting shit for what dan and gus did. Gus only did it cause lemone took loads of shit from od evidence etc to give to blue gang yo start a shootout heavy cop baiting (edited)

I mean from reading it as a whole & him being a previous senior staff member. The evidence is there to keep him permed as unfit for comm

11:14

Or if we want him back, we can do a stacked up ban for:

Major WL Abuse, permanent ban from PD
Cop baiting
LQRP

Etc etc

11:14

I think we keep him banned

11:15

I think Gus & Dan both need a serious speaking to. @Vinales, once you review mate are you happy to sort that out with Gus to see what the crack is. As it’s all well & good him saying he’s done it because Lemone did that, but at the end of the day as Snr staff you can’t do tit for tat shit, even if we don’t rate Lemone

11:16

Then I’ll message Dan unless you’ve already done it @<4D:69:64>

VDR

Then I’ll message Dan unless you’ve already done it @<4D:69:64>

i can talk to dan not an issue

Just say I get you don’t give a fuck, but in your position you cannot just be outright abusing perms & going against SOP’s

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Not on

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Then I personally believe we don’t discriminate & have to not take sides here at all

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Dan obviously is in a different position

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Strike for Gus maybe

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Idm keeping Lemone permed & we can treat this as a situation to cleanse the toxicity out the server

11:17

So anyone who deserves a ban gets one

11:18

Also got other staff members aware of Mkay being 17 & getting contacted about it

11:18

So… that’s another topic

i was in the call with them while they was doing this icl. but i was dealing with everything and was telling dan to stop shooting, i think gus flew in to help clean up at the end but then he confimed he was on the roof with dan, gus has been helping alot when i needed it icl, this one thing he probs just had enough , no excuse but understandable

11:20

after this our pop will probs be 20 a night i know we are trying to sort out quality but its something to think about

VDR

I think Gus & Dan both need a serious speaking to. @Vinales, once you review mate are you happy to sort that out with Gus to see what the crack is. As it’s all well & good him saying he’s done it because Lemone did that, but at the end of the day as Snr staff you can’t do tit for tat shit, even if we don’t rate Lemone

Yeah no worries at all I’ll have a word with today after work

<4D:69:64>

after this our pop will probs be 20 a night i know we are trying to sort out quality but its something to think about

But are we willing to keep shit houses to maintain pop?

11:42

Then with Gus it’s fully understandable that people are gonna lose it. Maybe don’t strike him, but give a “you knew it was wrong & know better” talk

VDR

But are we willing to keep shit houses to maintain pop?

im just saying mate, as it is something to think about aswell

11:43

i agree there should be bans

I mean does it get to the point where we’re betting shutting server down temporarily? (edited)

11:43

Obviously never great

11:44

But something to consider if we’re quite literally get fuck all people on

The hell is going on

i dunno

“17 like a month off 18 I’m pretty sure”

15:38

We banning Mkay for month?

15:38

Bday ban

15:44

Think he’s getting banned anyway with all this stuff going on

I like the guy

This situation stemmed from lemone asking them to help him in exchange for pd issued equipment

In my opinion the root problem there was lemone

16:21

He was on a heater last night

And he’s just outright snitched in that stream on ADF being in a call with him whilst in city

17:42

Guys an odd fucker

17:42

Clearly doesn’t want mates

ill be real

17:42

we are better without them

Dan is wanting to blanket ban all of Saggin, just waiting on opinions from B1 & Mid

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17:43

But ik they’re both busy currently

I dont know whats gone on in tickets or streams

<4D:69:64>

I dont know whats gone on in tickets or streams

tickets have been sorted

No i mean to warrant a blanket ban

I wouldn’t ban raj

17:54

He’s fine no

i have a feeling whoever we dont ban will come back to troll when they get bored in a vc

Also im sure mkay asked for com manager ticket, i told him i would sort when im home from work, Raj Shouldnt be banned Merida Shouldnt be banned Probs a few more like louis who hasnt done or said anything wrong i dunno need to look everything before i make a choice on blanket

did we make a descion on lemone

20:44

he is asking me

What’s going on with overhaul

21:24

Need any testing or help

<4D:69:64>

did we make a descion on lemone

I personally think unfit for comm at this point

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He's just got worse and worse since leaving staff and everything happening

00:04

Perfect opportunity to keep him out

00:04

But yeah that's valid Mid

00:04

I still think it wouldn't be a bad thing to do a little cleanse though of the bad eggs

00:04

just needs reviewing per person

@Vinales

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@Vinales

Oh okay thanks I will sort.

13:06

What are we thinking ??

13:06

Maybe Kobbie replacement ??

Opinions on doing community vouches under requirements,

game time?
no bans clean history etc

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@VDR @B1

Need to discuss lsm with the boys that are taking over - and with dan on how the script will work.

need to talk to cnc and gfc about the there business

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<4D:69:64>

@VDR @B1

Need to discuss lsm with the boys that are taking over - and with dan on how the script will work.

need to talk to cnc and gfc about the there business

(edited)

thats fine

<4D:69:64>

@VDR @B1

Need to discuss lsm with the boys that are taking over - and with dan on how the script will work.

need to talk to cnc and gfc about the there business

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I’m free on Friday as it stands

Someone dm’d me saying we should have wl gangs, opening up for conversation here. What do we think?

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so this doesnt get lost

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any alts or changes let me knopw

15:48

@Vinales have a look at the above aswell mate

are we keeping mkay and that permed? also are we keeping lemone permed ? just asking i know vdr said yes wondering what everyone else here thought? cause i dont even know anymore

20:51

its so blurred because of what happened

20:52

tbh mkay got banned for tackling while cuffed was harsh jt got banned for combat logging 7 days is harsh etc

20:55

like gus and dan fucked up lemone fucked up the others done small shit

These bans were retarded I’ll say it

02:16

You had mega staff abusing and put a blanket over it

02:16

Instead we banned players

02:16

It was shocking

02:17

That staff abuse spread like wild fire and it just looks shit for the server

Like ptu only combat logged aswell

B1

You had mega staff abusing and put a blanket over it

Dan & Gus both got up there with a helicopter

09:44

Mkay is known within the staff team as being underage now

09:44

Lemone is bad for the comm as it is

09:44

Up to you guys

lemone said something about a sniper?

VDR

Mkay is known within the staff team as being underage now

if hes known to be underage we cant allow him back

10:01

i thought he was 18 icl

10:01

i heard last year he was 17

<4D:69:64>

lemone said something about a sniper?

Yeah that was Dan, he admitted to that

10:08

Confirmed by Luka & Gus he’s 17

Mkay is shooter but he roleplays

13:26

I will defend that guy to the death I cant lie

13:26

thats just my opinion

I’m easy with mkay and them lot coming back, lemone I’m very unknown as it seems from discords he’s very much being negative and praying on downfall

13:26

But I don’t think ptu should come back

13:26

He’s terror

no PTU is just brain rot horry story shooter

13:27

we dont need that

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But mkay can be good when he wants

Mkay was a streamer with 20+ viewers

13:27

he can be

But when is very much in question

13:27

And he thinks he’s untouchable

13:27

As we let him slide a lot in the beginning

B1

no PTU is just brain rot horry story shooter

if we have proof of underage then we cant unban, ill speak to gus and luka i dunno what ptu actually did tho

B1

thats just my opinion

i agree mkay is fine even after all that shit he took it to court and won, giving some court room rp which was the better way of doing it

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I say leave ptu banned, he came back on a 1 strike basis as he was permed, hasn’t done or added anything to the server

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14:10

My opinion ^

lemone yes or no? im sick of the dms.

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21:32

no one had actual proof of mkay being underage...

Exactly

22:34

Just unban

When are we mentioning what’s going on ?!

19:48

As in the full wipe ?

19:48

Or is that not happening anymore

I dont think it should be a full wipe, it wasn’t agreed, it was just a topic of conversation from what i believe

Vinales

When are we mentioning what’s going on ?!

What do you mean?

<4D:69:64>

What do you mean?

Have we announced the wipe yet

Vinales

Have we announced the wipe yet

What do you mean wipe? As in 2.0

Yeah 2.0

20:24

Where all items are wiped

Thats mot been agreed

20:24

Not*

Oh

1 conversation about it from what i believe

But it should be a thing

20:36

Me and Dan think tbf

20:37

Too late now

B1

Too late now

It’s not too late, in my opinion what’s worse is realizing the overhaul and people not be interested after 2 weeks as they have everything already

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A fresh start is the best we can hope for if we are looking to bring players in and change what we maybe did wrong in 1.0 to retain as many people as possible, if we don’t wipe people have everything can buy everything and will get bored

@<4D:69:64> we can legit wipe all items and make new ones

01:17

So it’s a new deal

01:17

Not like they grind again for the same items

01:17

So all crafting items change

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Etc

B1

@<4D:69:64> we can legit wipe all items and make new ones

So u want to wipe items cars and houses?

08:29

Full reset

<4D:69:64>

So u want to wipe items cars and houses?

Didn’t say houses

B1

Didn’t say houses

2.0 is a full wipe bro

08:50

Im just trying to clarify

We cant wipe cars either.

@VDR needs to work out players money deductions as well

Think we said 50%

If it’s a wipe, wipe everything. If you’ve got your minds set out on something atleast let’s get something written for the community to understand

You can’t wipe cars mate

09:43

We already said we went back on that decision because people cried

09:44

If we actually had someone on social media pushing for a new com then I wouldn’t be arsed

VDR

Think we said 50%

Need to look at everyones money including rolls and bands etc, cause a lot of money has left the economy in recent weeks

We getting something written up, with exactly what’s gonna happen. Community seem concerned and in the unknown

Vinales

We getting something written up, with exactly what’s gonna happen. Community seem concerned and in the unknown

Hi vin announcement tonight. We’ve had to make a hard decision unfortunately.

B1

Hi vin announcement tonight. We’ve had to make a hard decision unfortunately.

Oh I do apologize hope all is well if anything is needed shout me

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He’s left before the announcement

16:46

Fuck my life

Yeah I saw mid left

16:54

Lemone just said it’s closing ggwp

well lmfao

Well

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There was two

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